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Challenge Between Lance and Damien Tuesday, July 4, 2006 Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: *Picks up one of the gourds, just in case. Moving to stand before his car and...shifting up to crinos, just incase someone does end up frenzying. He'd make a bet if he had any money on him, oh well. It was a nice tension breaker and all* Damien Rangore: I feel so cheap-...*He chuckles, stepping forward to get into the position requested* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *chuckles.* Mud>>I'll have to keep that goin', then. *Stands and heads to the middle of the clearing. Any limit on these two Gifts before we start? Say, Gifts against each other? Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *Shakes her head at Lance* No limits...I just ask that you give each other time to get the two Gifts up, which is why I'll be counting down the six seconds...On six, that's when you guys go...Not before...And I know Ahroun can get it...Damien, if you have Silver Claws....Don't use it...This isn't a death match.... Mud Bomb †Gaia's Switchblades..†: *She eyes Cries from her bulky Hispo position* ~ws~Just a dolla' more? Well, it's better'n nothin'...Get ready to loose it though...Any other takes? Any at all? Goin' once...Goin' twice....*Plunking down where she isn't in the way* (And Muddy will fade out a bit, seeing as I can't hold two windows..) Damien Rangore: *He snorts at Ash-...Actually looking insulted* I aint looking to kill nobody-... Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Nods to Ash.* Got it. *Shifts to Crinos and waits her signal.* Montana James: Quietly enters the gathering area, she does not draw attention to herself, as she doesn't wan't to be a distraction to Lance. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: Good, Carl...*She kept from asking if he wanted some mustard and biscuits with that accent...But she's being serious...She motions for Damien to shift up* Cries-Thunder's-Roar: *Provided Montana doesn't have a lot of stealth and isn't masked in a way, Cries may catch sight of her. When he does, he automatically starts scooting her way just for if anything bad does go down and one or both frenzy. Taking a seat near where the Kinfolk decides to park but still ready to jump in when one goes down. He doubts these stuborn asses will submit* Damien Rangore: *He shifts up into Crinos-...Faceing Lance in silence and just waiting for the mark-...* Cali "Scorched Earth": *Enters quietly* ((may only stay for a bit)) Mud Bomb †Gaia's Switchblades..†: *Montana will have a second furry body guard if things go ugly...For now, she just stays in reach where she'll be useful...That and she wants front row seats...* Montana James: Wolf ear likely caught her, and she staying close to the exit, just in case she has to get out of the area really fast. She gives Cries a nod when he approached her. Cries-Thunder's-Roar: *He chuffs at Montana to show he isn't a threat and only making sure she'll be okay. Having a seat infront of her but not right at her feet. He'll still need to move if needed* Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *She takes a deep breath before speaking loud and clear and the exact second...Staying next to the two for now..* One.....Two........Three.. (*G* Get yer first Gift up, fellas...) Cali "Scorched Earth": *Stops next to Montana and smiles lightly, before looking toward the to combatants* I don't blame you for sticking close to the exit *said softly* Montana James: She nods to Cali and then replies quietly. "I don't think anyone would let me get closer even if I wanted too." Damien Rangore: (( 3 suxx on Luna's Armor. Down a Gnosis and a WP. )) *He concentrates- ..Allowing his golden eyes to drift close as he silently prays to Luna while Ash counts-...On the three, his eyes snap open and his pelt takes on a sheen of silver that almost seems to make his pitch black fur glow in the moon light-...Luna's clearly favoring him* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((2006-07-05 02:55:10 Lance Persuasion rolls 4 dice to Cha 4, Sub 1 7,7,9,7 (4 successes) *G* A Gift where I only need 1 suxx and extra suxx mean nothing, and every die is a success. Wouldn't you friggin' know it. At least the fifth die wasn't one too. Lance rolls 1 die to Extra die 5 (failure))) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Stands on all fours, more used to the Hispo form he usually fights in, but doesn't seem to make any move as he activates Persuasion.* Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Ken>>Dude...You should have used Trash Magnet! You would have been the first person to get that many successes..*G*) *She starts taking a step back..Pushing up into Galbro and then Crinos as she does...Giving them room* Four....Five....(Get the second Gift ready...) Cali "Scorched Earth": *Nods in responce, giving her a playful yet deliberate nudge while watching the fight with neutral expression* Damien Rangore: (( *G* Need Lance's WP. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* Persuasion was for the lowered diff on TM.)) *Waits until Damien's done his--Resist Pain, he's assuming...* Cries-Thunder's-Roar: *The Galliard goes non-blink mode. This might last less then a few seconds and he doesn't want to miss it* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((7)) Montana James: She chuckles softly, "Careful, I bruise easily now." She says quietly. Cali "Scorched Earth": *Smiles at the comment but holds her reply, her own curiousity too peeked to miss this* Damien Rangore: (( 2 suxx on Paralyzing Stare. Down yet another Gnosis and a WP. )) *Golden eyes lock with Lance-...And Lance may suddenly feel as if frozen in place. In fact, he most certainly is-...Eyes lingering to put the fear the Shadow Lords are known for into the Bone Gnawer* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *And rather than activate a second Gift, Lance doesn't move at all, frozen absolutely immobile.* Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Alright, that's a tricky one...Roll Init guys to see if Lance can get his second Gift off before Damien freezes him..) Damien Rangore: (( 23. )) Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: *Just watches, gourd in claw. Waiting to see what happens, damage control and all. * Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((19)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Or, he may have waited. Not that he has much choice, since Damien got the jump on him.* Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Ack...Lance is still frozen for one turn unless you want to spend a Gnosis and get an extra 10, Ken..Damien'll still have one free turn otherwise) Cali "Scorched Earth": *Leans over and quietly whispers in Montana's ear* What's this about anyway? Damien Rangore: (( I finallt beat Lance in Init and then feel bad for him. *L* )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Naw, Lance was figuring on Resist Pain, so he didn't spend it. *G* Besides, Damien has the same Gift and could have done the same thing.)) Cries-Thunder's-Roar: *Ouch. If that's what he thinks it is, Lance may very well be fucked. He even leans forward like a small child might towards a television set* Montana James: Cali> Lean closer to whisper a reply. "Damien taking all the weapons and silver from a battle a few nights ago because he was the ranking Garou." short version of what Montana knows. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Alright then..Jake, go ahead and declare what he's going to do then have at it..Afterwards, fall to Init...) *Lance didn't seem to do anything the first time...And she winces physically for the guy when he doesn't seem to do anything the second time...Thinking he's got balls from hell for a few seconds until she notes he isn't moving period...A grunt, but she can't stop them...Lance had asked if there was restrictions on Gifts and she had said none...* Damien Rangore: (( First action split for a Fur Gnarl to Lance's chest. Spending two Rage. )) Cali "Scorched Earth": *Pieces the rest together on her own, and nods thoughtfully* Montana James: She watching and is puzzled as to why Lance isn't move.. Cali "Scorched Earth": *If she's confused in anyway by what's going on she doesn't show it* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* Well, not going to hot so far... soaked 2.)) Damien Rangore: (( First Action: 2 suxx on the first half and also another WP gone, 6 agg. On the bite attack following, 2 suxx and 4 agg. One the first Rage, and I forgot to label it diff 7 for the bite but still got the 2 suxx, it's 4 agg. Then he did a claw on the second Rage at diff 8 with 2 suxx and 6 agg. )) *He leaps forward like a bolt of lightening and claws poised to slam into Lance's chest and rake him from throat to groin to rend away flesh in a blow that would kill a normal man almost instantly, if they didn't die of sheer shock. His fangs follow in just as fast, taking advantage of the area and tearing through twice before his claws go raking in in what is likely to be a very bloody mess* Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Awshit...*Gets Muddy's window back up..*) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Wanna see if he falls before you bust out the Rage attacks?)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Ken>>That's totally up to you...I would think these things are still N/L unless you're pushing it not to be *G* If you wanna go ahead with Rage, go for it) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Flesh and fur peel away easily from Damien's claws while Lance is still frozen, absolutely unable to react or even dodge--or even grunt in pain, for that matter. Immediately after Damien's jaws clamp shut on his torso, massive fangs punching through flesh, and Lance falls, finished.* ((and that's 7)) Damien Rangore: (( *G* It was actually -3 dice only, Ken. Fur Gnarl is one die lost for every 2 damage. But by his soak pool, it still looks like he might not have a chance. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G That's what I was askin'. I'm assuming Damien's not actually going to use those Rage actions, but it could be he's planning to use the advantage while he's got it.)) Damien Rangore: (( Ken>>Yeah, if he dropped him that quickly then he wont use em'. He isn't trying to kill the guy. *L* )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Ack, you're right. Which means one more suxx and he's only down to Crippled.)) Montana James: Montana goes pale as a ghost as she watches and is pushing off the pile of junk she was leaning against. Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((and soaked 3 out of the first Rage, so that one still put him down to exactly Incap.)) *Not quite finished... But he doesn't even stagger, doesn't even struggle to stand; held absolutely immobile by Damien's Gift. Until the second bite, which sends him to collapse in a heap.* Damien Rangore: (( Alright. Since Damien can hold off, he will with his Rage actions. )) *When Lance drops and it's clear he's extreamly fucked up-..Damien backs off-...The guy can't submit and he doesn't have any intentions of killing him, even if it means Lance doubling back and possibly doing what he isn't about to-...He remains ready, but watches the Gnawer-...* Damien Rangore: (( *L* Or that. DLP then. )) *He watches Lance fall and looks to Muddy, barking* ~ht~Heal him! Montana James: Montana's moving toward the fight unless someone stops her. Mud Bomb †Gaia's Switchblade..†: (7,3,7 on Mother's Touch) *She lunges for Lance right as Damien yells...She doesn't have Spirit of the Frey or anything, but she leaps in to lay her hand down on Lance and start with the bluey glow...* Mud Bomb †Gaia's Switchblade..†: (7,3,7 on Mother's Touch) *She lunges for Lance right as Damien yells...She doesn't have Spirit of the Frey or anything, but she leaps in to lay her hand down on Lance and start with the bluey glow...* Cali "Scorched Earth": *subtley places her hand ever so lightly on Montana's back, a support gesture as well as a convenient means of catching her should she pass out* Cries-Thunder's-Roar: *Montana will have to get by Cries as the wolf moves to block her. Looking up at her to as if to say "Wait"* Cali "Scorched Earth": *Whispers*Montana>> He'll be ok... Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: *A slight grin on the galliards face as the fight starts then...just fades away as the fights over....Holy shit, that lord is a scary fucker. Just staring at Damien for a moment then to the downed Lance. * Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *It's enough. His chest is still a mess, but at least he's able to stand, growling.* HT--Thank you, sister. Montana James: She stops and looks at Cries, she'd like the tell him to get out of her way, but those teeth of his are sharp. "So help me if he's dead..." she mutters. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *Her brows furrow at something...But she watches for now since more then a few are likely to leap on Lance and she really can't do anything...She looks at Damien...* Cali "Scorched Earth": *She nods again watching Lance rise and backs away moving out of the group now the the challenge has been settled and grabbing a beer from the washer before throwing herself into a lawn chair and lighting a smoke* Montana James: When Lance moves, she heaves a sigh of relief. Cries-Thunder's-Roar: *Lance's growls hopefully assure Montana that Lance isn't dead. He looks towards the fight again, moving towards Lance to help heal him unless forcefully shoved off* ((1,7,3+1 WP)) Damien Rangore: *He backs off to let Muddy heal her packmate, looking to Ash-...Blood dripping from his claws and muzzle* Montana James: She takes a step back from Cries when he growls at her. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *She frowns at Damien* Did you use something that might have stopped him from using a second Gift? I know he didn't move the first time around, but that seems a bit odd... Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ((*G* Cries didn't growl)) Montana James: (Oops, misread the post. *s*) Mud Bomb †Gaia's Switchblade..†: *She flicks an ear at Lance, eyeing him...* ~ws~More? Don't think it's gonna scar, but.... Damien Rangore: *Blinks at Ash* ~ht~I did use a Gift to freeze him in place-..I didn't seem he do anything-....Was I suppose to wait for an open invitation if he doesn't look like he's doing anything? Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Growls.* He did. Despite your very clear condition that each of us give the other time to get our two Gifts up. He has violated the strictures of the Challenge, and both his Honor and the silver are forfeit. Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: *Waits from Ash or something to be told to use the gourd, otherwise he just sets it down on the car he uses, shifting down to homid since things seem to be going alright...he hopes* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((And all in the High Tongue, of course, since he's still in Crinos.)) Damien Rangore: (( I didn't see him do anything^ )) Montana James: Garou in war form, she remains near the exit. Cries-Thunder's-Roar: *He sighs and looks up at Cali, even though she's a virtual stranger* ~ws~Do you mind taking Ms. James a bit further into the maze? I have a feeling this is about to get very ugly and I don't want to see one of the few Kinfolk around harmed Mud Bomb †Gaia's Switchblade..†: *She growls at Damien* ~gs~Yer a cheatin' bastard and ya know it! Lance might notta been doing a Gift the first few seconds in hopes you'd run like the coward you are! Cali "Scorched Earth": *Although her interest peeks when she hears this, she stays where she is and just watches* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: HT--Easy, sister. *Does move, though, so she's able to cover his back in case it does hit the fan.* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: Mud>>HT--It'll be fine. Thank you, Cries. Montana James: More growling and sneering, she inches closer to the exit. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *GodfuckingGaiadamnitsonofabitchingmotherfuckercocksnottingpeckerslurpings natchdrippingsonsofafuckingbitch! She hits her forehead with her palm....Several times to the point she seems she's likely going to beat her brain in...Then she calmly kicks up Truth of Gaia, looking to Damien* Repeat that, please... Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: *Muddy's comment gets Ru's attention. Frowning, moving closer towards Ash since it seems the other two are grouping. This could get nasty, least they have the numbers advantage* Mud Bomb †Gaia's Switchblade..†: *She does step infront of Lance, hackles rising as she rumbles at Damien* Cali "Scorched Earth": *She smiles at Cries and flicks out her smoke* She's never been out of my sight, but sure...*Moves silently toward Montana her emerald green eyes infectiously warm* We don't gotta leave if you'd rather see this, but if it gets nasty, I may have to grab you a scoot outta here just in case, so don't be alarmed...* turns back to the angry mob with a frown now, the first visible sign of negative emotion she's displayed all night* Montana James: Right now she wishes her had her gun with her, not that it would put one of the garou down even if she did have it. Damien Rangore: *He blinks at Ash-..Then shrugs* ~ht~He looked like he wasn't doing anything. I was going to use Resist Pain, but if he's just going to stand around with his dick in the wind I'm going to make sure he -does- just stand there. I thought he was trying to fuck with me-..That and Lance usually always moves before me, so I assumed he wasn't doing shit all for Gifts. *Another shrug. And yes, it is all true. He couldn't have used Paralyzing Stare mid-combat without Lance possibly killing him. So clearly, he honestly thought Lance was just messing with him to scare him even if it wasn't necessary* Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ~ws~No problem, Rhya. I just don't want her getting hurt since it's close to both of your moon if this turns into a heated arguement. *He looks to Cali and just grunts. But gets ready to block any path towards them if Cali does have to grab the Kinfolk and run* Montana James: She nods to Cali but then leans closer to quickly whisper something to her, "If it explodes, I'll leave, you stay...." Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *She sighs..* Lance, he's telling the truth with thinking you were not using anything....Did you even use anything? Mud Bomb †Gaia's Switchblade..†: ~gs~Yer a lying prick, Damien! You put him in place and he couldn't move to do anything. You probably froze him before he could get -anything- up! *She's mad...This much is clear...Snarling up at the Shadow Lord* Damien Rangore: *He snarls a warning to Muddy-...But he makes no move towards her* Montana James: Seeing Muddy getting more angry, "On second thought... I think I'm going to see Chopper until this is over." Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ~ws~Mud Bomb-yuf, Never Warns Twice has a Gift that will tell if he's lying. Please don't add to the conflict Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Nods to Ash.* HT--Yes. I used one Gift, and would have used a second had he not violated the strictures that ~you~ stated for this challenge. ~IF~ I ~HAD~ decided not to use any Gifts, that was a decision for ~ME~ to make. You made it a condition that he give me time to bring up two Gifts, not that he figure I'm not going to use any and decide for me. That he added foolishness to honorlessness is no fault of mine, and changes nothing. Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: HT~~Easy, Mud Bomb. Calm down, sister. Damien, you want to snarl at my packmate and we can see how you do in an honest fight. Cali "Scorched Earth": *Nods to Montana* That's a good idea, I'll be less then 10 feet away I promise *Pauses* might wanna let him know what's goin down too, in case those folks start to ~really~ cause a ruckus Montana James: Cali> "I will." she says softly and slips off into the maze. Montana James: And she's off to let Chopper know what's going on and pace until someone comes out to let them know it's all safe. Damien Rangore: ~ht~Then that's my bad judgement, Lance. You looked like you were standing there. I didn't think you were going to do anything and that's why I put you where you were. Sorry if I didn't wait for an open fucking invitation of "Okay Damien, the six seconds are up and I'm ready even though I've been standing here half the count down." If Muddy has something to say, she better step up. I'm not going to stand here and listen to her yap at me and insult my packmate's honor as well as mine. Mud Bomb †Gaia's Switchblade..†: *She growls, paceing a bit infront of Lance* ~ws~He's got his packmates to defend him...Cowardly pussy... Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Nods to Damien.* HT--That's why you added foolishness to honorlessness. You don't like having your honor insulted, then don't earn it. Muddy, I said calm down. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *She shoots Muddy a warning look as well, but nods to Lance* Okay Lance...I didn't think you had used anything either....Damien has violated the terms, but it was a slip of something...However, you did make it look like you weren't using anything and he took advantage of that...One moment while I think...His honor is at stake, so don't go off on me as defending him...It likely isn't as severe if he had used that first so you couldn't move at all....I also said "no restrictions", as in use what you wanted but gave you both the six seconds to get ready...That somehow seems flawed even though I didn't think it was....*Sighs...Paceing a second...Damien is in trouble, because Ash looks disapointed...* Cali "Scorched Earth": *Watches Montana leave before turning back to the crowd and watching while she leans against a car and lights another smoke* Regin True-Paw: *meanders in* Cali "Scorched Earth": *Thanks Gaia she wasn't born a half moon* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: HT--I made no accusations against you, Ash. Whatever his intentions, whatever his thought that it wouldn't matter, Damien violated the terms of the challenge. ~That's~ my argument, and I trust you'll make the right decision--else I would have demanded that someone else oversee it anyway. Damien Rangore: *He steps infront of Muddy, snarling. He doesn't seem to give a damn that Lance is right there* ~ht~I said I admitted to being foolish. Keep it up, little Gnawer. I can't challenge you, but maybe your packmate can explain this woodshed thing to you. Ash can challenge your ass though, so if you think being a coward and yapping at -me- about -her- is going to do anything, it might get your ass handed to you just like I did you Alpha who fucking just got me framed and likely did it intentionally like he manipulates everyone else. My lesser breathern would be impressed by him, surely-... Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *She waves Regin over* Come here, please...I need your assistance... Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: HT--Damien, you honorless cur, you back the FUCK away from my packmate, ~right~ now, or I'll throat your lying hide right here and now. Regin True-Paw: *it doesn't take long to realize the gist of what's going on. and she rolls her eyes in annoyment. she blinks as Ash beckons her over & she meanders on over* Whatcha need? Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: Goddamnit, Damien...Step back...Muddy, that's your name, right? Don't speak again...Someone two ranks above you has asked you not to...Don't goad him into anything... Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((ack. "cheating", not "lying.")) Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: *Wondering when Muddy got so stupid, just listening and watching. Least till Lance spoke up, again. A shake of his head at the gnawers out burst.* Cali "Scorched Earth": *Takes a deep hit and exhales into the sky thinking they should get rid of the fuckin silver, only purpose for having it is killing other garou...* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: Not quite, Ash. You said "I just ask that you give each other time to get the two Gifts up." Your direct words--I remembered, because it was in answer to a question I asked you. Mud Bomb †Gaia's Switchblade..†: *She growls, but catches Regin then rumbles up at Damien* ~ws~There's a true Philodox here now...She wont defend you like the Fury will...*Taking a step back* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: HT--Mudbomb, shut ~up~. Regin True-Paw: *crap. frowns a bit then furrows her brow in concentration* Well what exactly did Damien do to violate the terms of the challange? Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: Also Lance, there was a loop hole...I said no restrictions....But to give each other time to use your Gifts..You didn't look like you were doing - anything-, is what I'm saying and Damien thinks the same thing...That's not direct cheating, but it is against better judgement... Regin True-Paw: *looks to Mud Bomb* I'm just a Philodox. Nothing more. Nothing less. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *She grunts at Regin* He used something that froze Lance in place...His defense is Lance looked like he was doing nothing and he thought Lance was showing balls and not using any Gifts, so he used the one he did...Which Lance says kept him from using a second Gift... Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: Ash, you said that we had to give each other time to use our Gifts. I gave him time to use his Gifts--as you demanded. He did NOT give me time to use my Gifts; which is exactly the ~opposite~ of the condition you set. Whether he thought I wasn't going to use them or not, you still requited that he give me time to use them. Regin True-Paw: Hmm *muses, though she does look like her mood went from good to bad in 1.6 seconds* This is going to be difficult since I, unfortunately, didn't witness this. Well since there was the loop hole of no restrictions I guess the only part of the terms it violates is allowing Lance time to activate a second Gift. *ponders* But it doesn't seem that it would violate the no restrictions loop hole. *thinks some more... she's running this through her head* Damien Rangore: *Loudly* ~ht~Ash, she's still talking-...Either make her get your point or I'm going to drive it home and she's still going to get the point. *He looks at Regin* You can even test my words. Lance didn't move and did something he wont state and made damn sure it looked like he wasn't going to use anything. If he's pulling that, Ash's terms are unjust because I didn't wait for an open invitation. I used my Gift while she counted and Lance didn't do shit by the looks of it. Yes, that could be my slip of judgement but he's fucking rail roading me because he lost when I took advantage of him when he looked like he wasn't using anything. Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: (*Considers dragging in Thea...naw*) *Just listening, glancing from speaker to speaker. This is all sort of fucked up* Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ~ws~Rhyas, if I may? Regin True-Paw: *looks to Damien then to Cries, though she's no superior he may provide valuble perspective. plus it gives her time to think (& the player to type)* Regin True-Paw: ((Woulda been on sooner but I just got home & I had to wait until I could use the computer)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: HT--No, Damien, you dishonored the terms of a challenge, and I want to see justice done. Whether you thought I would use a Gift or not makes absolutely no difference at all. By the conditions you ~agreed~ to, you were to give me the time to use one. The conditions you dishonored. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (..And this is why I hate my characters knowing each other...*L*) *She looks at Muddy finally* I asked you to stop talking...You aren't doing anything but adding words to the conflict while we are trying to settle it in a manner besides insults....Your honorless actions will be noted among the Nation, as you have disrespected an Adren who you not only started insulting, but he asked you to stop because he cannot challenge you... Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ~ws~It seems that you all agree there was a loophole in the terms. Rides- Rhya, even your own packmate just stated there was a loophole. Never Warns Twice had said no restrictions and to give each other time to get your gifts ready. Damien unknowingly violated the terms. I'm not agreeing with him that you did anything to cause this, but it was a mistake. The point is however the challenge was flawed which means rightfully another should be set. One that there wont be any flaws in Mud Bomb †Gaia's Switchblade..†: *She growls, but stays quiet after that and just watches* Damien Rangore: ~ht~So Ash's no restrictions don't count, Lance? No one knew you used a Gift the first time. It's not my fault when I don't wait for an open invitation to waste the three seconds I was given to get another Gift up when you plainly looked as if you were doing -nothing-. Regin True-Paw: All I can say is that Damien isn't a mind reader. How could he know if any Gifts were activated. And there doesn't seem to be mention that Gifts had to be activated. *she nods* I agree with Cries-Thunder's-Roar. It seems to be an unintentional error, which will no doubt cost some degree of face. I can only suggest that the challange continues on until there's a decive victor, or set new terms for a new challange. Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: HT--Cries, what I'm trying to say is that it didn't ~matter~ whether Damien was mistaken or not. Even if I ~had~ decided not to use any Gifts, the conditions of the Challenge ~required~ that he give me the time to do so--so whether Damien had guessed right or made a mistake makes no difference at all. Am I supposed to run through one challenge after another until he's finally tired enough to deal with one honestly? Regin True-Paw: ((Decisive even)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *She nods in agreeance with Cries and Regin..* Agreed...Damien..You weren't sure, which is a mistake any of us could have made but you do loose a bit of face...You're action will indeed be noted...It's not as severe if you had blantly just disregarded the terms set...But it is a loss of face...(And by the way...I'm giving Muddy a -2 Honor and Damien - 1, just for Renown references unless Ken wants to argue them..Crusher gave us all I think -2 for disrespecting an Adren when it wasn't really even disrespect *G* Muddy got in Damien's face and it really should be more, so I'll leave that up to Ken) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: HT--Ash named a restriction, Damien, and what you knew or didn't know means jack shit. It is your fault when you violate a challenge, so you can stop trying to pass the buck any time now. *Shrugs, looking to Regin and Ash.* In that case, we can run the challenge again as it was intended, or I have a suggestion for a different one. Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Actually, both are alright with me.)) Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ~ws~I agree with your packmate, Lance. She's said it how I was meaning and will not place any more input-Rhya Regin True-Paw: I would like to make an amendment to the terms, if no one minds. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Alright *G* Cause Ken, you picked up on the loophole before I did...I - was- going to rule Paralyzing Stare didn't pick up until next round because the Gift states you concentrate for a full turn...Which means it actually shouldn't have been up until next round, but that was a mistake on my behalf..So that's why I would judge only -1) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *Nods to Regin* Please... Damien Rangore: ~ht~Thanks fine, Ash. If Lance wants, I'll even perform a Rite of Contrition. *No, he isn't being snide or even being a smartass. He does know he fucked up, but it was a mistake* Regin True-Paw: If Gifts are going to be permitted, perhaps it would best not to use Gifts that render your challanger immoble. Gifts such as Spirit of the Fray & Resist Pain is fine as they are beneficial. Damien Rangore: (( Ash>>It does? *Blinks* )) Regin True-Paw: ((*chuckle* Hey at least it wasn't the clusterfuck involving Spirit of the Fray.)) Regin True-Paw: ((BRB, getting Tylenol)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *Nods to Regin* And Luna's Armor? That's one Damien used...But also note, he taught it to Lance and Lance made a pact he can't use it against a Shadow Lord, even in challenge...So that is kind of pulling the rug at Lance's pact, but not completely splitting hairs... Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((I figured from the example of the Stargazers' Merciful Blow, that they mention 'next turn' specifically, if that's what they meant.)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Yeah...The Gift states you concentrate a full turn...Which would have been the three seconds...It reads like it takes effect the next turn since it doesn't make sense for you to concentrate a full turn on a Gift that uses Gnosis, when if you only get 1 suxx the Gift is nulled because you couldn't have done anything else that round...) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Shrugs to Ash.* I have no problems with Luna's Armor--I gave my word, after all. Damien Rangore: (( *G* SotF was involved. Damien got Init one of the few times over Lance without spending a Gnosis for an extra suxx. )) Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ((Ash: And you wait now to tell us? *L*)) Regin True-Paw: ((It's probably a caffiene withdrawal-induced headache, but I'm not going to drink caffiene this late)) Cali "Scorched Earth": *Nods and stamps out her smoke before turning on her heels and making her way to the front office to peek her head in and let Montana know that things are probably settled down enough to come out now. Though she still plans and sticking pretty close to her* Damien Rangore: (( *L* Greeeeeeat. )) Regin True-Paw: ((Oh I'm sure everyone here heard of the SotF clusterfuck of SM.)) While it would be beneficial, but that's really up to Lance. I personally would advise in honoring the pact he made to learn it, but I can't force him. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Well, Ken hadn't said anything so I thought I was doing it right...I went back because I thought it was a Wits based roll for some reason and Jake had asked for the wrong thing but by then, they had already started..) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* Never heard of it.)) Montana James: She looks over at Cali, "Is it over?" it doesn't sound like it but she thought she's ask anyway as she heads back with Cali. Regin True-Paw: ((OMG! Should I rumor-monger? Who doesn't like juicey gossip?)) Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: (*C* I remember something like that with the scrags vanishing since the charm says they concentrait for a full turn and Ken said it works that same turn) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *shakes his head.* He can use Luna's Armor if he wants. That's not a problem with me. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *Nods* Well, basically Lance just can't use it against Damien's Tribe...It is beneficial though..*Which the sneaky bastard made sure of, because she had to make the same pact..* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* Naw, Ruarc, that was that Ruarc couldn't use Call of the Wyrm on them to make them quit vanishing because they're already gotten onto it. They were still there 'til the end of the round, though.)) Regin True-Paw: *nod* I'm sure it is. Regin True-Paw: ((And in 30 minutes if it seems I'm extra busy it's because I'm checking Guild Wars)) Cali "Scorched Earth": *Smiles a little* We're garou chica, it's never really over...*has a chuckle at that before taking on a little more serious of a tone* best to stay back for now though, don't think any claws are gonna fly anymore but the embers are still hot if you know what I mean. Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: (Oh? Thought we talked about them using the charm and ditching in the same round heh. Badger> Depends...is it really tasty?) Damien Rangore: (( Actually, I think she may be right. That may be another question you should offer to get on your knees for if WW will answer it, Ash. *G* Cause I still think Blur of the Milky Eye is only visual, not all senses. Even Alter Scent says that's what a Ragabash uses when they can't rely on Blur. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((and my thought to Paralyzing Stare is that if it starts the next round you can't actually use it in combat, because unless it starts the round you use it, then while you're standing there glaring at him he's tearing you a new one. Regin True-Paw: ((Well it involves a character of Jesse's & a character of Rusty's)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((I ain't got Alter Scent, but I've always had it for all senses. *G* Including when Alexi was sneaking up to eavesdrop on Lance and... Slacker, I think.)) Cali "Scorched Earth": ((Man...if I had a nickle for all things SM managed to turned into cluster fucks...*trails off with laughter*)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* Oh, do tell. This ought to be entertaining.)) Montana James: Cali> "I'll stay at the exit. It didn't come to blows after I left did it?" Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Jake>>I aint getting on me knees for anyone...And where's it say that about Blur? *G* Which PG? *C* Ken>>It says "The character concentrates for one turn. The player spends one Gnosis point, and rolls Charisma+Intimidation (difficulty of the targets Willpower). Each success freezes the target in place for one turn. The target must be able to see the Garou." The mechanics wouldn't work...You concentrate a full turn and spend Gnosis, that -is- your turn...It wouldn't be fair to say "It starts this round" because you just spent it getting the Gift up) Cali "Scorched Earth": *Shakes her head* Naw...those two half-moons got things worked out neatly enough I reckon...most of the folks are just raw that the challenge didn't work out, not about the mistakes that were made. Damien Rangore: (( Ken>>It's not for all senses. *C* If it was, that Gift would be highly overpowered. *G* I forgot to tell you guys that the next day. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Except that if it doesn't work that round, then anytime you used it on someone they'd rip you up before you finish--since, like I said, you're standing there glaring at them and they're going veg-o-matic on your hiney.)) Damien Rangore: (( SotF is always active. *L* )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((If it wasn't for all senses, it would be useless anytime Garou are around.)) Cali "Scorched Earth": (( *Raises hand* Isn't SotF ALWAYS on?)) Regin True-Paw: ((Well he completely forgot to figure it in. His bitching was basically along the lines of that it's everyone else's responsibility to know what's on his characters' sheet.)) Montana James: (I remember that.. Several people Darian when Jesse brought him in after he was suppose to be dead.) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* I think "Mik brings one of Jesse's characters back to life" was the SM metaplot. Anyways, we had a challenge goin'?)) Cali "Scorched Earth": (( Beat me to it Damien~P *S*)) Damien Rangore: (( Ken>>I can give ya the PG write up with Alter Scent. *G* It pretty much plainly says it. *C* Paralyzing Stare shouldn't be used mid-combat. But you're ruling until we get a staright answer. )) Regin True-Paw: ((The way I see it, if you forget to figure in a simple thing for you character & your character dies because of it, it's your fault not everyone else's.)) Regin True-Paw: ((But anyhoo... happy thoughts!)) Montana James: Cali> "What does that mean exactly?The challenge is over or isn't?" Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (*G* I'll see if I can talk him into answering that...*G* But either way, even if it is that's an error on my part...) *She looks at Damien and Lance* Alright...You're say Lance, can he use the armor or not? Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Chuckles.* Again--by all means, let 'im use it. I would't mind being healed up the rest of the way again first, though. Damien Rangore: *He grunts* ~ht~And I know Lance is gonna say -something- and I don't give a flying fuck, because Lance always says something if he doesn't get his way. What I just pulled was my all. My Rage is half shot and my Gnosis is about gone. Now, Lance can even let Regin make the ruling, but once again it wont be even ground because Lance stood there, I obviously fucked up but did my all and now I'm tired. Plus he's wounded which you guys should be healing him for. Regin True-Paw: *nods* I have no problem having both parties healed up. Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: *By now, he's gona and sat down. Eyeing the whiskey, would be nice. Just waiting, listening. * Montana James: (Everyone still speaking in HT?) Cali "Scorched Earth": *Still standing well out of the way of any combatants with Montana* Well, the first challenge was ruled unjust. The rules were a little to vague in a couple of important areas, and it was decided that a rematch was necessary to decide a clear winner. Regin True-Paw: ((Not Regin)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Anna>>It's totally my bad because I did post Ash shifting to Crinos, but since I forgot that...Just consider she shifted down for whatever reason) Montana James: She blinks at Cali, "You're joking right?" Montana James: (Thanks.) Cali "Scorched Earth": (( Just throwing this out there, but I think that arguement was plenty heated enough with honor deductions and such that most of you rage is probably replenished)) Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ~ws~Perhaps Ruarc might be able to come up with a talen that can fix Damien's problem while Lance is being healed. He is a bit of a tough one to use Mother's Touch on, but one of those talens should do the trick Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Snorts.* HT--After you spent half an hour passing the buck about how it wasn't your fault you violated a challenge, I don't think you have much room to talk what anyone else has to say if they don't get their way. Damien used up his advantage on a challenge he violated--if he don't have it anymore it's his fault; not mine. Ash, you told me that this would be settled tonight, did you not? Did you give me your word? Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: *A chuckle at Cries* Actaully, I have been considering a few things...but first. Here. *Walking over to Lance and spending a gnosis to hopfully heal the ahroun up the rest of the way* Damien Rangore: (( Mike>>Yeah, but Damien is down -2 Gnosis, -3 WP and -2 Rage. Lance isn't down anything. The Rage might be restored, but he has 3 WP and 1 Gnosis left. If he needs to use it, he's most definitely fucked in the Gnosis department and basically can spend 2 WP or risk being able to hardly do anything if I'm not mistaken. )) Cali "Scorched Earth": *Shakes her head* It happens, I really don't think anyone meant to deliberately break any rules the first time around, but things got dicey none the less cause Damien used a gift that incapacitated Lance...that's why he wasn't movin...anyway, since both fighter got good arguements, the challenge is gonna be recontinued so both fighters have a chance to.. Regin True-Paw: I don't think she expected this to happen though. Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((And actually, 4 HL's ought to be enough to do the job.)) Regin True-Paw: Actually... I got an idea... *looks to Ash* Cali "Scorched Earth": ((*Nods* Ahh...I see now)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *She nods with Regin...* Ruarc, can you possible come up with something so Damien will be in full fighting mode? Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *She nods to Regin again* Of course Damien Rangore: (( Although, one second while I check something with Ken. *G* )) Montana James: Cali> "This stuff is going to land me in the hospital," she mutters. Regin True-Paw: No one needs to accept the idea, but if a new challange is preferred, they can wrestle. And I don't mean that sissy stuff they show on TV. I mean the shit they do in high school & the Olympics. Neither party can shift or use Gifts. They just wrestle around on the dirt until one wins, either by unconsiousness... or being wrestled from the circle... which can be made. Regin True-Paw: This way, I figure no one needs to use Rage, Gnosis or sheer willpower. Regin True-Paw: *shrugs* But it's probably a silly idea... but anywhoo.. I'm just a witness. *rocks on her feet* Damien Rangore: (( Ken>>Alright. And Rage rulings? )) *He grunts at Regin* ~ht~I'd rather tear him up-...Again-...Tell ya what. Since Lance, being the baiting little bastard he is, thinks it's just and fair that I go at him only half cocked-...I will. *Shrugs* If he wants to still go at it, two Gifts a person and with there clearly being -no restrictions- I'll not use Paralyzing Stare, I'll do it. However, since Lance is doing this whole thing over something-...I want something from him now. Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: Yeah, probably could. Would take a little time but. *Shrugs some and after healing Lance up just dust his hands off and goes to fetch another, to see if he needs to go do something * Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: Well, Rage and sheer will can be used in any fight...You guys want to do that and we restrict Rage and sheer will? Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *She nods...* Alright Damien...What is it and Lance has to agree to it... Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* Over this much argumenbt, between Lance and Mud? Yeah, he can have gained his Rage back after that.)) *Snorts.* HT--Maybe you can do it honestly this time? And baiting? You're a liar, Damien. I made my challenge, you violated, and then you spent--what, and hour so far?-- passing the buck. Montana James: She looks at Ash and wonders, what the hell? Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: Ash>>I ~have~ to agree to whatever this demand of his is? Damien Rangore: ~ht~I want a little respect from him. Not only that, I want him to perform a Rite of Contrition not only to me, but you. He's done a lot of insulting over this and talked a lot of shit. I've insulted back because I walked in on him talking shit, which is what caused this. I think it's a little fair that if I win, he shows a little respect. Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((an, not and. ugh.)) Cali "Scorched Earth": *Nods a little, having to respect that fact that kinfolk are still humans in a mysterious and often lethal society* Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Ken, you're doing it again...*G* Stop mis-reading or I swear I'm bringing a paddle with me whenever I do get down there *Cackles* She said Lance has to agree, as in "If he doesn't agree, no you can't"...) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: HT--Ash, you're going to require that I perform a Rite I don't even know to you for imaginary insults and to him for speaking the truth and not taking it lubeless when he slanders me? You're not seriously considering this, are you? Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* You said "Lance has to agree to it". What ~else~ did you mean, then? Cali "Scorched Earth": *Sighs ever so slightly as tempers start to flare again, only validating her thoughts just moments ago* This is getting a little tiresome isn't it? *said barely above a whisper to Montana* Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: *Snorts abit at Lance, that gnawer is messed up in the head.* Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Seeing as the terms have to be agreed upon by both parties...) *She shrugs at Lance* That Rite can be learned and considering some around here? I think most should know it....You have to agree to it...He is making a good arguement though because you're challenging him for something after you both had an insult fest...You -have- insulted me, several times, in the past several days...You're challenging for something and expecting to not give in return...Regin, do you think Damien is asking something fair? He doesn't have to give me the Contrition...But Damien is asking for one and between all the H word used, I can see his point.... Montana James: "I don't know what all is being said, but yes it is getting on my nerves." she replies softly. *and it's not doing her blood pressure any good either.* Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (What I just said *L* Both parties seem to have to agree to the terms and if Lance doesn't agree, it seems like you've ruled there really isn't shit that can be done about it and they have to be set upon agreeance *G*) Cries-Thunder's-Roar: *It Montana only knew how bad ~his~ nerves were grated. Still, he listens to the others talk* Regin True-Paw: *considers* It's not like it'll hurt. One for Damien I can understand. Don't know about towards you, but that should be between you & Lance. And if Lance doesn't know it, I'm willing to perform it on his behalf. Damien Rangore: ~ht~You haven't wrong me in any way, shape or form Regin. Like Ash said, it can be learned. It takes a week and I can wait that long. Hell, aren't Garou suppose to be wise and learn Rites? Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: *its...not at all bothering him too much, go figure. Fianna argue and boast and all that good shit. So this isn't as bad as some stories and a few happenings he's seen. * Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: Exactly...Lance has insulted me, but he always insults me and I've learned not to take half of his insults to stride *Shrugs* Others sometimes cannot...I think it's a fair ruling, but if Lance doesn't agree...*Shrugs* Regin True-Paw: I have heard of it being done on another's behalf, that is why I offered. It also doesn't hurt to learn it. Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((OR that the halfmoon overseeing it can set terms, which it's already come to.))HT--If I lose, Ash, he gets the silver. But if a condition of his winning is that I have to grant him a Rite of contrition for not hiding the truth on his behalf, then it's only fair that if I win I can expect one for his actions. Cali "Scorched Earth": Montana>> Ahh...just more bickering about the terms of the challenge. Seems their gonna wrestle this time around, but since Lance is challenging for the silver, Damien wants Lance to perform a rite of contrition, like a formal apology, if Lance loses again. *continuing to speak just below the comparative volume of the rest of those present.* It's seems fair to me. Cali "Scorched Earth": ((Their=They're...yeesh)) Damien Rangore: *Shrigs* ~ht~I already -told- Lance I would. I even offered for screwing up the challenge. So what is it, Lance. We wrestle or do we tear at each other and I'm not allowed to use one of my Gifts, possibly two if Luna's Armor isn't allowed? I'm fine with either. I just said, I want the Contrition because all this insulting came from this. If you loose for writing a check your ass could cash, it should be expected. Montana James: She doesn't voice an opinion but nods give Cali a nod of thanks for translating the gist of the conversation to her. Damien Rangore: (( Couldn't^ )) Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: What if you all gave me a few minutes, let me think and see if I can do something and maybe make things a little more fair? Would that help any? *Not said to loud, after all he's not sure if he can pull the shit off but it might help* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Sighs.* HT--You said you want to tear me up--I figure it'd be interesting to see if you can do it honestly, so by all means. And how many times did I say I'm fine with Luna's Armor? What is it; three now? Alright, if you win I'll make a formal apology for being a big meanie. And if I win, you make a formal apology for violating a challenge and abusing your rank to take what's mine--even down to snapping up the last scraps simply because you could. Is that clear enough, or am I gonna have to repeat it ~again~? Cries-Thunder's-Roar: *He sighs through his nose. If everything was so even about Gifts and such, every Garou would be on the same ground. He isn't seeing the point in this* Damien Rangore: ~ht~Then you make it offical, Lance. I can use the Gift and I am not allowed to use the stare. Now, Ash and Regin-...He said I can use it. I'm obviously going to. Now, is there anything -else- I can't do, that isn't restricted, and please make sure if you say "no" that no one can possibly go "Oh, he did something!" Cali "Scorched Earth": *With everyone pitching in their ideas, or counter statements she'd only add to the confusion so she stays silent, speaking only to Montana to provide translation.* Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: Lance, seriusly. Get off your high horse, you've fucked up just as any one of us has and your acting like you can do no wrong. It's getting really annoying, like a broken record. *A soft grunt but it's what Ru belives, great lets wave something red at the bull* Cali "Scorched Earth": ((I'm gonna take off folks. It's been fun...hope yah'll had a nice 4th, G'night.)) Regin True-Paw: ((Night Cali.)) Ruarc Bronach ~Remembers the Echoes of the Fallen~: (ta ta) Montana James: (Night Mike.) Montana James: She rolls her eyes at some of what has been said. Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: HT--I'm not over here violatin' challenges, Ruarc, so how 'bout you try not adding to the matter? It's taking long enough and then some already. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: Go for it, guys...Lance, Damien...Both of you still got your first Gift up? Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Nods.* I still do. Regin True-Paw: *rubs her head a bit* Ruarc Bronach ~Das Booted~: Hey, niether has Damien from what I've seen. No restrictions on gifts should be the over ride, but I ain't no half moon. *SHaking his head at the gnawer before heading over to grab a second gourd and shifting to glabro for now as things seem to be starting back up again* Damien Rangore: (( If Ken's allowing it-.. *Would think Luna's Armor is still up, since it's the same scene* It would be obvious IC if it is. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: Ruarc>>HT--Then maybe you missed your own alpha's judgement. *Grunts.* And you wonder why we think you're a dumbass.... Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((I'd figure so. Same scene, and he didn't drop it that I noticed.)) Regin True-Paw: ((Dear gawd the quad burger looks nasty. It's a quad bypass on a bun.)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: Ruarc, just back down..Please...Alright, you both have it up...Take your places again....I'm counting to three, you do your second Gift...Unclear in anyway? Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Regin>>The BK one? *L* I was just...Stareing at one today *G*) Regin True-Paw: ((Yeah. I'm watching Funday Pawpet Show... And it looks nasty. And the dog doesn't eat it initially.)) Damien Rangore: *He nods, moving to face Lance from a yard away* Ruarc Bronach ~Das Booted~: I didn't miss it, it's my own opinon. I'm allowed one, am I not? *Then looks to Ash and just nods, not liking letting the loud mouth get his way.* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* Badger--that sounds kinda nasty to me....)) HT--I assume you give us the mark and count to three ~while~ we do the second Gift? *shrugs.* That's my guess, but I don't want to be kicking something in while I'm supposed to wait for a count of three. Regin True-Paw: *just goes into witness mode* ((It looks nasty. Probably tastes nasty too. Despite what they think, soot is not a viable flavour)) Regin True-Paw: ((I'll take a jalapeno burger any day)) Ruarc Bronach ~Das Booted~: Why not drop something between the two to signal for them to go, Ash? Just so theres no one claiming damien jumped the gun? Montana James: She narrows her eyes at Ruarc for a moment, but remains silent. Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Grunts and turns towards Ruarc.* HT--I don't know if you've noticed, but we're trying to hold a challenge here.... Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *She clenches her jaw* Lance, you get the fucking point...Put the Gift up, quit arguing and let the best man win...*It's clear Ash is on her last nerve..And she waits until Lance is ready, throwing up a hand before counting* One.......Two..........Three..... Cries-Thunder's-Roar: *Is a wolf could roll his eyes, he would* ~ws~This is getting childish beyond reason Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (And if it's not obvious, the hand lifting is the mark...Go ahead and do whatever Gift) Ruarc Bronach ~Das Booted~: *Just a smile for Lance, thats all. No insults, no flipping the bird. A simple, friendly smile. If he ever goes down, he's so taking that gnawer with him* Damien Rangore: (( Dropping a WP for Resist Pain. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: HT--Ash, I wasn't joking. I wanted it perfectly clear. *Turns back to Damien, the talons on one hand turning jagged and viciously barbed.* ((Blowing a Rage for Spur Claws.)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: *Puts her hand down....Then steps back and lets the fuckers tear themselves apart..She's about had it..* Regin True-Paw: *just stays back & watches* Damien Rangore: (( Init 19. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((25. Declare?)) Damien Rangore: (( Splitting for one Dodge and a Fur Gnarl. Spending 2 Rage. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Alright. Splitting for a Bite and a Claw. And spending 3 Rage.)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((2 suxx. Dodging?)) Damien Rangore: (( Nope, dodging the claws. *C* Roll damage. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Ack. 4 Agg)) Damien Rangore: (( Soaked 2, down -2. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((And, uh... The claw attack went rather nicely. 5 suxx.)) Damien Rangore: (( Failed. Roll Damage. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Lance beats Damien to the draw, lunging forward. His jaws aren't the almost-charicature-heavy jaws of the Hispo form, but still quite capable. Damien, knowing that those wickedly-barbed claws are the real danger, doesn't resist, getting wounded slightly.* Regin True-Paw: ((Must breathe... too much laughing...)) Damien Rangore: (( And soaked 8. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Damn... 10 agg.)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *That second blow should have been enough to tear any Garou in two. Instead, it makes little more wound than the bite did. But Damien was right to see that as the greater harm, because the claw rip free from Lance's fingertips, a literal thorn in Damien's side.* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Roll through.)) Damien Rangore: (( 3 suxx on Fur Gnarl at diff 9. Lance dodging? )) *Lance does indeed strike first-...Causing blood with his jaws and then some with the claws that tear out. Damien forces himself to swipe the Gnawers chest, trying to get a solid blow in but not holding his breath* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Damien actually manages to get a good shot. For some reason, Lance isn't blocking or dodging the strike at all.* Damien Rangore: (( 4 agg. )) Montana James: She flinches as she watches the two fight.. and leans against a near by car to keep her already unsteady knee from completely buckling. Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Soaked three. And the roll on Trash Magnet could have been better, but 2 suxx.)) *The blow isn't quite as deadly as it could be, but all the same, Damien peels blood and flesh and great swathes of thick fur from Lance's hide. Lance chuckles, and waves an arm at Damien--and trash flies into him; bottles from the bins, scraps of wood from the broken pallets of the firebarrel, random car parts; bumping into him and throwing him off-balance.* ((Your first Rage action.)) Regin True-Paw: ((And I need to get to bed. Night all.)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (And Lance just violated the terms...Two Gifts...Lance said he still had the first one up...Are you guys actually doing this on purpose? *G*) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Later, ma'am.)) Damien Rangore: (( Ash>>I swear to God I'm not. *C* )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((You said they could use two gifts beforehand. Nothing at all in the slightest about Gifts they could use after the fight began.)) Regin True-Paw: ((*shakes head* Heh. Night. *poofs to bed*)) ::GONE:: Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* Hell, it's not like he needs it at this point....)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (One second...) Montana James: (Was a limit actually set? Or the combatants get two difts before the fight starts?) Montana James: (*chuckle* Ken beat me to the question. Night Regin-p)) Damien Rangore: (( It was suppose to be two Gifts before the fight and I thought that was the limit or else Damien would have used Paralyzing Stare after Init - last- time since he clearly isn't allowed to use it. *C* )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((I'd figured from the first that it wasn't a limit of two Gifts, but that two could be used beforehand. If that's my mistake OOC, though, I can retract the post with no trouble a'tall.)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (It was suppose to be two Gifts period, three counting SotF. If that's another loophole, go for it guys...I'm obviously wording the shit wrong to the point it's either just not making sense, or you're looking for words that can be mis-read or something *L* Eh, go with it. Chalk it up as yet another thing Ash said/did she didn't mean to do or say...) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((that's why he used Persuasion the first time--if he didn't have any to waste, he would have stuck with Spur Claws and Trash Magnet.)) Ruarc Bronach ~Das Booted~: (Was two gifts before starting combat *chuckles*) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Easy, Ash. If two Gifts maximum was what she had in mind, then I have no problem with pulling the post and doing something else instead. That fine by you, Jake?)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Well, Paralyzing Stare also says it takes a turn of concentration and that can't be retracted...You guys figure it out..*L* I'm giving up, cause I was starting to think you both were doing it on purpose *G*) Damien Rangore: (( *G* Ken>>It doesn't matter to me. *C* I was under the impression they got two Gifts up to make it balanced at the begining of combat. I was drunk yesterday, I missed a lot of things so I honestly have no clue. *G* Ash>>I swear, we aren't doing anything to tease you. *L* )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Alright. I'll pull that post, and he'll do something else instead. No muss, no fuss, nothing to argue over.)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (It's up to you both, I'm already digging through last nights archive *L*) Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ((Ash: I told em' I would give them 10 bucks if they would piss you off. Sadly, they didn't realise they have to split it between themselves *G* JK)) Ruarc Bronach ~Das Booted~: (Wait, why pull the post? Just have Lance take the violation *Blinks...is watching a movie, is probably missing shit...chuckles* And maybe it should be agreed upon that gifts/charms that take a turn to put into effect should work on the next turn as it makes the most sense? Just a suggestion. *Returns attention to the new underwold flick* ) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *Lance actually let's Damien's attack work, peeling flesh and skin and great swathes of hair from his chest, and tries to get a little fancy, with a full-spin kick to the head. Trying to get fancy in a fight like this is probably a bad move, but apparently he's confident enough.* ((1 suxx. Block/dodging?)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Ruarc>>I'm actually e-mailing Ethan first chance I get since a player got shafted sorta for me not going and reading the Gift *L* I'm also bugging him about BoTME...Let em' do it as they want *G*) Damien Rangore: (( Nope. *L* Roll damage. )) Damien Rangore: (( Ash>>Page 186, Players Guide To The Garou. Look at Alter Scent. If that doesn't answer it, nothing will. *L* It plainly says "While Blur of the Milky Eye works wonders on sight-obsessed humans-..." )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((I still think that if it wouldn't work until the next turn they they would have mentioned it (like they did for the Stargazer Gift Merciful Blow) and that it would be pretty near useless in combat. *G* But lemme get the email if Ethan replies.)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((4 bashing.)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Ken>>Well, Gnosis Gifts are pretty useless in Combat...*L* I mean, don't you get Luna's Armor up if you get the chance before hand? Jake>>Thankies, I'll look) Damien Rangore: (( Soaked. Botch x 1. *C* )) *Snaps and does something not good when he goes for the gnarled spot* Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ((*Is actually looking for Ethan's e-mail addy to do it. Is bored* *G* Anyone know it?)) Ruarc Bronach ~Das Booted~: (Holy shit, Jakes so right on that *Chuckles*) Montana James: Not that anyone will notice with the challenge going on, but Montana isn't looking so good. Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (It used to be AlphaEthan@white-wolf.com *C* If it still is, I have no clue..I used to mail him all the time to the point he stopped answering *G* I think I annoyed him...Yay for new e-mail addy...) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Or I think it was Alpha Ethan...) Ruarc Bronach ~Das Booted~: *Just watches, worried for his pack mate. Really hoping Lance got himself ripped up again. The talen still in hand, just watching and waiting for the end* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Keep in mind that I don't have the PGGtG, and tonight's the first I heard that part. Thge second addition just says you use it to change your scent to that of something else--from deer to diesel trucks.)) Damien Rangore: (( *L* I actually think Ethan bailed on WW, didn't he? Or I was told by someone-...Who by the way, I think is an idiot-..That he stopped when something like this came up and I offered to e-mail and he said "Oh, Ethan isn't with White Wolf any more. You can't even find his e-mail any more." So if it's not on the WW page, maybe the dumbnuts saying silver doesn't do an auto HL of damage each turn of contact out of breed form was right. )) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Ken>>It does say that *L*) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Damien>>Well,I just noticed that part recent--if you're out of Breed form (or in, if y ou're metis) then yeah, it's an auto-HL, unless the silver is some sort of fetish (like a Klaive) where the silver-spirit won't harm you. *G* so you can't just dodge a klaive-dueler for seven rounds and watch 'em drop dead.)) Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ((Well, I checked the old website which I know used to have Conrad, Chris M and Ethan's e-mail addies and a smattering of others. I'm still looking as I didn't see it on WW and their Contact Us looks like just a complaint form)) Damien Rangore: (( Ken>>No, I even pointed at the page number and all. The guy said his Garou picked up a broken Klaive blade-...Which in and of it's self, is stupid-...And proceded to say "Oh, he doesn't take damage. That rule isn't in revised." *G* And then the guy suddenly had Silver Tolerance and five suxx on Luna's Armor. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* Gotta love how they get merits like that all of a sudden. Ash, any ruling on that botch?)) Montana James: (and since I can't keep my eyes open much longer..) She wants to remain and be sure things turn out alright.. the problem is her body it telling her otherwise, feeling weak and faint. She she heads for Lance's shanty. Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Am I the only one who finds it amusing that for all the bitching WW did about Underworld stealing their copyright, the T-shirts look to me like a direct rip-off of that girl's pose at the beginning of the movie?)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (*G* Ken>>The one where she's crouching or the one where she's standing? *G* And UW stole shit my Ratkin pulls in the second movie...Stuff she's done two years before the movie...*Shifty eyes* They're spying on me..But that movie was totally different from WW...Except the Catfeet movie..But that made me laugh my ass off...And the silver nitrate ammo...) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (And Ken can make a ruling, I can't think of anything *G*) Damien Rangore: (( Ken>>Oh God don't get her started on Underworld. *G* We'll be here all day. *L* )) Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ((Fuck Kate. I'd bang Infamy any day. She's less a pansy *G*)) Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ((And doesn't do the brit accent around fake fangs. Or I hope she doesn't *G*)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* I'm playing one of the combatants. Ruarc, Cries, how 'bout a ruling on that botch?)) Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ((Hmm. Knocks him a bit off balance from leaning over and -1 die per 1 on his next action?)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (*G* Inf has no accent...Cause I never gave her one and try to type the best English(Not British...Just normal English, that supposedly exists) my brain can possibly come up with...Which likely still has "aint" and shit all around *G*) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((That'll work. *G* And finally, on with the show....)) *Snarls as Damien still tries to cause some serious damage and snaps furiously at the other Garou's face.* Damien Rangore: (( Infamy says three words at a time, and sometimes will surprise with a conversation. You can't mess that up. *G* )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Ugh... Diff 6 roll, and 1 suxx. Dodge/block, Damien?)) Damien Rangore: (( Nope. Roll damage. )) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (...More like five words...But still...*L*) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Uuuugh... 2 agg)) Damien Rangore: (( Soaked 3. 1 suxx to bite the Gnarled spot. He doding? )) *Lance snaps and bites Damien square on the tip of his nose while he's tottering a bit from the missed shot. But the Gnawer fails to draw any blood before the off balance Lord darts for another bite mid-tettering* Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ((Uh uh. "I will stab you in the face" is seven words. Unless I isn't considered a word. Then it's six *Will shush now*)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((3 suxx to block.)) *And with an almost careless backhand swat, Lance knocks Damien's head aside and off-target.* ((Init again?)) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (*LMFAO at Salem* Okay, okay...Your dick is bigger...For now..*G* Yeah, it would be Init again I would think...) Damien Rangore: (( Init 26. )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((24)) Damien Rangore: (( Ken>>Declare? )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Splitting for two blocks. 3 Rage)) Damien Rangore: (( Okay, is digging the claws out a full turn or just an action? )) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (*C* Gift says full turn..) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((I ain't got the book on that. Ash?)) Damien Rangore: (( Alright, was checking so I didn't have to dig it up. Splitting for three attacks. First is biting the gnarled area, the other two are normal bites. Spending 2 Rage. *Winces. This might hurt* )) Damien Rangore: (( 1 suxx on each attack. Down another WP. *C* )) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Wouldn't that be all of Damien's WP?) Damien Rangore: (( Nope. I asked Ken about something dealing with Nature/Demeanor and he agreed. He's got 1 left. *C* )) Ash Spencer †Can't Wait For Violence..†: (Ah *G* Kay) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((2 suxx on the first two attacks, and roll through on the third.)) Damien Rangore: (( Ugh. 3 agg. *C* )) *He keeps darting in, despite the wounds and claws stuck in his side. Snapping first for the gnarled area, then for anything else he can hit* Note: May have missed some posts here. Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Soaked 2, so now he's down 2. And that uses up his actions, so go ahead with your first Rage action.)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: *The first two strikes are batted aside, but eventually that flurry of snaps manages to reach Lance's skin and draw blood again.* Damien Rangore: (( Niiiiice. 4 suxx to hit the Gnarled spot. )) *He lunges in after he draws a little blood. He's clearly seeking more as he darts around the batting Lance to try and strike home again-..Unless he gets hit again* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*sigh.* Luuuuucky.... 4 suxx on the block. Forgot the -1 for wounds, but take one off either end and it's still the same.)) *Little too complacent, there, but he learns not to be as he barely manages to knock aside a snap that would have fucked him up badly.* Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((and your second Rage action.)) Cries-Thunder's-Roar: ((You take a die off one end? I thought you re-rolled *L* I've been doing it wrong and screwing myself half the time)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((It never mattered to me which one, but I can reroll if you want.)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((I'm just saying it would have been the same roll with only 7.)) Damien Rangore: (( Ken>>It's up to you. I always reroll but if you have a certain way of doing it, that's fine. *C* )) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((Went ahead an' rerolled. *G* 5 suxx instead of four. Second Rage action?)) Lance ''Rides-the-Storm'' Kilkenny: ((*G* But I'll go ahead an' stick with the first one.)) Damien Rangore: (( 1 suxx to try and hit the spot. )) *Snap. This isn't working to great*
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